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Since
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South
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Fred Elgar dies |
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From
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Shallowford,
a Training Course
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From The
Executive
The Fred Elgar Thanksgiving Service.
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From North
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JULY
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Since
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It is launched,
but it won't stand still.
Applications for Membership
are coming in from all over the place. Applications
for listing as a Prayer Minister also continue to
come in.
The first meeting of the
Executive Committee was on Monday 30th July.
There was a Course
in South Africa starting on 8th August.
The residential Course at Glastonbury is now
full, with members from well outside any thought
of a regional event, starting on 6th September.
For more about these and local events see CPM
Events.
In whatever County or Region it is happening,
if it is of interest and within reach, get in touch.

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A
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An
impression of the First AGM Meeting
A chorus
of greetings, exclamations of delight, making new
friends, hugging old ones.
The atmosphere
at the inaugural AGM of CHRISTIAN PRAYER
MINISTRIES
was charged
with excitement and a great sense of anticipation,
as more and more people gathered together.
People had come from all
over the country. Some even breaking into their
holidays in order to attend, such was the importance
of the day, appropriately held at the Harnhill Christian
Healing Centre, near Cirencester.
But the business of the
day had to wait its turn. It was recognised that
this new ministry organisation had come about through
pain and separation yet with the Lord leading each
step of the way.
It was necessary to set
the past behind in order to be released into the
new. John Bedford led the assembly in a time of praise
and worship culminating in that release. Each
person alone knew of their dealings with the Lord
as they took up a stone representing their past.
As they held the stone it became a tangible reminder
of past experiences and relationships. Each one
dealt with issues privately before the Lord and then
laid their stone, with all that it signified, at
the foot of the cross, laying down the past and so
receiving freedom to enter fully into the new.
And what enthusiasm for
the new, with an overwhelming vote of support for
the chairman, Hugh Baker. The openness of discussion,
the gracious way each question and suggestion was
considered, enabled every person present to know
they were an important part of CPM.
The new prayer ministry
organisation is officially launched. There is
still a lot to do, but much gratitude to those in
leadership who are giving time and energy to steering
a way through the minefield of legal requirements
of Charity Law so necessary in order to operate as
a "membership" group. Many issues need
to be resolved but with the fully representative
structure of the Executive Committee drawn from across
the Regions, there is a new confidence that the concerns
of all will be considered.
But Christian Prayer
Ministries is not for our benefit. The Lord has
called us to His service and equipped us with ‘tools’
to bring healing to His bruised and broken people.
The Circle of God’s Love and the four areas of
brokenness continue to be deep truths of His revelation
for fullness of His life and freedom in the blessings
of this ministry.
We did our business on
30th June. We listened to the Lord. We prayed for
those serving Him in prayer ministry courses abroad
and at home. The work in the Regions is ongoing
and exciting with new opportunities for training
Prayer Ministers.
Let us continue to seek His
face for one another, and for the ministry, and pray
above all that the Lord Jesus Christ might receive
glory and praise through the on-going work of the
people throughout the country committed to Jesus
and in membership to Christian Prayer Ministries.

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AUGUST
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South Africa Fred
Elgar
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THE
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AUGUST
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The Team of Hugh & Elizabeth Baker,
Peter Darby, Kenneth Gubbins, Gerald Hume, Jackie
Long, Glenn & Maureen Pennington, Angela &
Mike Smith and Barbara Stokes from Britain joined
Des and Kathie Roberts from St Chad’s, Table View,
near Cape Town, South Africa. A right motley
crew, well past their physical prime but a mere 25
years of age within, marvelled at the unity, fellowship
and fun that the Lord gave us.
N.B.Barbara Stokes slipped
on some seaside rocks and gashed her leg. Despite
two courses of anti-biotics her leg is no better
and her mobility severely restricted. Your prayers
are invited for her.
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CPM team from Britain ran a Prayer Ministry Course
at St Chad's, Table View, near Cape Town, in
August 2001.
This is
a light-hearted account of some of the happenings
that took place.
There was the Rev Dr Gerald
– known as Lord Hume or Thermoduke, which he swore
was his middle name but failed to show us his passport
as proof. He was forever bursting into song even
in public places given the slightest encouragement.
A snappy dresser, yet failed to impress with
his shirts that must have come out of a Hawaiian
catalogue. There was elegant Barbara nicknamed
Lady Stokes or sometimes the bag lady with about
5 bags accompanying her wherever she went. And
Peter, our retired Doctor, whose wife had put him
on the scales before he came. He was dreading
returning for a wifely check-up, and claims that
the scales read 2 lbs lighter when he returned –
impossible! As compensation he labelled all the
females anorexic, especially me (Jackie), and was
concerned about my stability after I confessed I
had been blown over on a golf course on a windy day. Angie
could be found on the beach collecting pretty stones
and shells for her ‘talks’ back home. Mike
had his bags full when returning home but just smiled
serenely as usual and proved to be brilliant at making
a variety of drinks for this crew. Rev Hugh, our
leader – was quietly but authoritatively referred
to as ‘H’ by Elizabeth, especially when driving. Glen
and Kenneth were quiet (some of the time) but fun
and their Godly presence and wisdom was felt and
appreciated especially when the rest of us were getting
out of hand. Maureen, as usual, kept us amused
with her infectious laughter along with Rev Des and
his teasing trickery. Kathie had us doing her
housework and fed us royally and seemingly unflappingly
– I was most impressed.
Our Purpose was to teach,
minister and train members of St Chad’s in Prayer
Ministry so that they can develop this ministry wherever
the Lord leads. The expectation is reaching
out across South Africa. St Chad’s is an Anglican
Church that uses the basic liturgy as a structure
but moves in the Spirit around this. The congregation
is a mixture of races – whites, blacks, coloured;
African, Afrikaners, ex-British. Very hospitable,
welcoming, gracious, enthusiastic people – a joy
to be with. We were privileged to take part in
the services – but Jackie was very relieved
when Angie agreed to do the 7.45am service allowing
Jackie a little longer in bed.
39 people received individual
prayer appointments. 6 of whom made commitments
to the Lord for the first time. On the last Sunday,
testimonies of what the Lord had done had the Team
in tears. We hope for permission to share some of
those in due course.
Hugh was healed of having
been unwell on arrival. Maureen received
healing for her spine. Carrie (St Chad’s)
testified to neck and shoulder healing as a consequence
of her personal ministry. I am in expectation
of healing for two of those I prayed with and there
will be many others I don’t know about.
I had some difficulty with
the contrasts – very rich and very poor living side
by side. The blacks we passed in the street
always seemed willing to say hello and grin broadly.
My hostesses’ maid (came to different people
in the week and desperate for work) caught
a bus at 5.30am to arrive at work by 8am. Squatter’s
huts clung precariously to sand-dunes near the Airport. The
city was materially Western with its shopping malls
whilst there were wayside stalls in the country selling
carvings etc and corners with young Africans selling
fruit and flowers. I did not like the city.
The Future Vision? We
all want to return next year and have schemes afoot
to put anyone else off from going!! Not really
so of course, though we hope the Lord does send us
again. The future vision for St Chad’s
and South Africa needs to be prayed through following
the Lord’s footsteps steadily and surely. A
core of people who can take this forward in South
Africa is starting to be revealed and CPM’s task
is most likely to take this core on further with
other Churches involved and with the aim of enabling
them to become independent of Britain. One
or two of us feel we would like to minister to the
people in the Townships but we will see what the
Lord develops here, if anything. Besides, there
are plenty of other places in the world we would
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We had 4 days after
the course to enjoy what we could of the Cape Peninsular
of South Africa, but what to do and where to go? The
problem with a Team in unity consisting of 13 people
used to leadership but determined to be gracious
to each other is that everyone talks at once and
no decisions can be made. We got used to
finally reaching a decision the evening before and
then changing our minds the next day! I decide
to ‘go with the flow’. Problem – so did everyone
else. Eventually Hugh was encouraged to
carry on leading the Team! We saw whales leaping
about, magnificent scenery around Cape Point and
the Cape of Good Hope, baboons, ostriches, cheetahs
(rescued - not in the wild), townships, squatter
camps, millionaire’s houses by contrast, Table Mountain,
Kirstenbosch Gardens and much more besides. It
was winter there and we often set off in the rain
and cold (for them) but with expectation that the
Lord would give us decent weather at the important
times. He did this to perfection and also the best
view of whales seen in years just by standing on
the cliff top. Thank You, Lord for this wonderful
act of love towards Your children!
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Fred Elgar dies
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We have received news that Fred Elgar
went to be with the Lord on Saturday 11th August,
after a long illness.
Those who have known him in WTC days and since,
with his strong contribution to prayer ministry in
many places, or during his time of about 20 years
in the Chichester area and about another 20 years
in the Guildford area, will be sad at this loss,
but in no doubt that he knew his Lord and will be
rejoicing in his unhindered presence.
He was 80 last year.

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SEPTEMBER
2001
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From the Chairman Shallowford, a Training Course Glastonbury, a Prayer Ministry
week-end
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FROM
THE CHAIRMAN
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We have received
our 200th application for membership. On behalf
of the Executive Committee, can I thank you all for
your support, financial, prayerful, and emotional.
You will find
accounts of the Courses that have been going on below.
We on the Committee have been having a less exciting,
but just as essential, time of it! It took up
till Summer to see what pattern of support was emerging,
and we still wait to be registered as a
Charity with the Charity Commission (not being helped
by them, seemingly, losing our Application Form).
I would ask
you to be patient with us as we work through the
great amount of prayer and preparation necessary
to ensure that this ministry is established on a
footing that will keep it healthy in years to come.
If we can get it right at the beginning, there’s
less chance of things going wrong in time to come.
Sincerely
in Jesus, Hugh
Baker
17th Sept
2001

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SHALLOWFORD - September 2001
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Originally an Event
arranged for the West Midlands, it became wider than
the boundaries of a region, and included members
and team from the South and South-West.
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A TRAINING
COURSE in Christian Prayer Ministry At Shallowford
House, Shallowford, Stone. Staffs.
The purpose was to teach the
HOW TO in this ministry. It was for 20 who felt
called to be Prayer Ministers, and had shown some
interest and gifting for that. They were joined by
10 experienced people to share and guide in the practice
of this ministry. All
were able to continue their progress along the path
they were on.

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There was a lot to
appreciate in the facilities and food provided for
our stay. Access via Motorways in that area on
a Friday afternoon is not recommended!
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GLASTONBURY - September 2001
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What began as a
Regional Course became a place and date without an
organisation. It seemed unlikely that there would
be an organisation willing and able to continue with
it, however in the event it came under the newly
formed Christian Prayer Ministries.
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The first C.P.M. course
in this country was held at The Abbey House, Glastonbury
in September 2001, taking place over four days, from
Thursday evening to Sunday lunchtime. The course was lead jointly by Richard
Worthing-Davis from Swindon; and Eileen Hume
from Tipton in the West Midlands.
As it took shape it became
clear that both Members and Team were to be coming
from a far wider area than a Region, taking on some
characteristics of a national event, in that it provided
Prayer Ministry without constraint of regional borders.
The members came
from a variety of age and circumstances, of church
and work and home. The
supporting team was in part resident but strongly
supported by a sizeable group who came in for the
ministry times on Saturday.
Brian Mintoft from Tywyn,
with his guitar, not only played extremely well,
but led the worship quite beautifully, very ably
supported by his wife Jean. Prayer support was
provided prior to the course by people around the
country, and by groups led by team members during
the ministry times.
Abbey House proved to
be an ideal location for the course, providing adequate
space, together with comfortable rooms and good food.
The staff at Abbey House went out of their way
to support the course. The house has an atmosphere
of peace and an awareness of being steeped in prayer
over the years. A real spiritual oasis in that part
of the west country.
The team was conscious
of a sense of unity and rejoiced to see God at work
in so many lives. We returned home on Sunday aware
that the Holy Spirit had touched each one of us,
no matter what our role had been. God's blessings may sometimes
evaporate before we take them into our lives, but
it seemed that there would be lasting blessing in
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We met in this
distinctively Christian House. There may be some
New Age goings on elsewhere. Jesus Christ was
central here.
The
Abbey House proved to be a good, spiritually clean
place in which to meet.
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OCTOBER
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From The Executive The
Fred Elgar Thanksgiving Service. A Tribute
to Fred Elgar by Mary Clarke.
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From The Executive
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Extracts from a recent letter from the
Executive to Members of CPM, following their meeting
at the beginning of October. They next meet towards
the end of November.
Registration
as a Charity is proving a slow nightmare. They
lost the Application Form we sent them in early June,
so we've had to send another one in. The Charity
Commission normally take 95 days to process an application.
Lambert
Maudsley was busy transferring the Web Site
from www.christian-prayer-ministry.org.uk to www.christian-prayer-ministries.org.uk
He hoped to be moved by October 18th,
and for a full account of what's going on, do have
a browse. Even amateur geeks like us can easily find
our way round.
The
Course at St. Chad's Anglican Church, Cape Town in early August
was “a huge success” in their words, and they want
us to go back next year. We prayed with 37 people
from St. Chad's and 2 from one other. In the
long term, of course, we want to train up people
there to do their own prayer ministry. Please
PRAY for Des and Kathie Roberts as they approach
clergy in their fraternal about their churches sending
people to next year's Course.
The
Lord really looked after us on our first Course,
at Glastonbury, held on
September 6th-9th. We'd badly
miscalculated the residential uptake for the Course,
and were looking at a £1,000 loss. However,
the Lord met us through the Love Offering, and we
were able to give the Abbey £90, and make a
“profit” of just over £90 to support the on-going
work of CPM.
The
first Special Training Course 1 was held at
Shallowford, Staffs.,
on September 20th-23rd, and
was filled to capacity. Of the 20 people attending,
9 were recommended to go forward to a Training Course
2.
With
regard to standards of Training and Accreditation,
the Exec. have set up a Working Party, under Peter
Darby, to devise a training system without any
“Pass or Fail” element in it, which will give every
Member a job to do within the ministry, appropriate
to their gifts and stage of development.
Membership
now stands at 228. We ask you to be very patient
with us if things seem to move forward slowly: there's
an awful lot to be thought and prayed through, and
it's important, for those who follow us in future
years, that we lay a firm foundation. Your Committee
has been too wrapped up in urgent practicalities
to look, together, for an overall future vision;
we cannot, therefore, tell you as yet how the “centre”
will relate to the “edges”. One
thing we are all determined about, though, is that
we will be a servant ministry to the Church as a
whole. Our first priority will be to help our
Members, where they are, bring this way of praying
to the grass roots of God's kingdom.
Two members of the Exec. have been ill
in recent months, due to overload. Hugh Baker
went down with a water infection in July, with a
blood P.S.A. reading of 25 (it's supposed to be 6).
His doctor suggested a year without a holiday was
not a wise policy, and time off in August did him
a lot of good. He has recently been cleared of the
possibility of having prostate cancer. Linsi Simmons
went down with shingles in September: she is just
beginning a Research Degree in Christian spirituality
at Bristol University, and realises she had too much
on her plate. Consequently, she has had to resign
from the Exec. We shall miss the wisdom she has to
offer, but her degree will obviously strengthen her
Christian life, and ours.
Don't forget that the next A.G.M. for Members of Christian Prayer
Ministries is on October 12th,
2002 at Harnhill Manor, 11a.m.
Hugh Baker,
Chris Cox, Peter & Sheila Darby, Eileen Hume,
Jackie Long, June Meek, Phil Monger, Glenn Pennington,
Linsi Simmons, Angela Smith, Ken Stiff, Barbara
Stokes.
The CPM Executive Committee. 
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Thanksgiving
for the life of Fred Elgar
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The Thanksgiving Service for his life was held
at the Millmead Centre of the Guildford Baptist Church,
where Fred had been on staff for a time.
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Thanksgiving
for the life of Fred Elgar, at the Thanksgiving
Service 7 Oct 2001.
Among the many
meeting to pay tribute were his own family.
His son Simon spoke for all the children, picturing
for us the husband, father and grandfather and sharing
precious memories of Fred who delighted in family
gatherings. There were testimonies from parishioners
of St Barnabas Church, Crawley where Fred was the
Anglican Vicar. We were amused as we imagined
Fred, helping to paint some wardrobes complete with
overalls and dog collar.
Mary Clarke shared some thoughts of Fred in the
WTC years with testimonies from those
benefiting from his trips to Holland,
Switzerland,
Canada
and Malawi.
(See
below). Fred
Elgar was one of the first group of people to be
involved in prayer counselling when Anne White introduced
this ministry from America. The ministry
was known as Victorious Ministries through Christ,
later becoming Wholeness Through Christ, with Christian
Prayer Ministries now springing from the same root.
Lynn Green of Youth
With A Mission, spoke
of Fred’s encouragement of the fledgling ministry
in England and the way Fred and Barbara opened up
their home to the team when they had nowhere else
to go. Fred became the first Chairman of YWAM
in this country.
Phil Colinese, a member and former Elder of Guildford Baptist Church spoke of Fred’s initial counselling
ministry to the church, his subsequent call to be
an Elder and then Staff Elder and of the gratitude
they owed to him in these roles.
Fred was a pioneer and into
his 70’s was open to doing new things for God.
Jill Southern
and
Peter Horrobin spoke
of his involvement with Ellel
Ministries and his
spiritual stature which provided such a solid rock
as they were expanding the ministry with the purchase
of Pierrepont near Farnham. Fred became
Deputy Director and he and Barbara had the use of
a flat at Pierrepont where they worked full time
until just a few weeks before Fred’s death of cancer
at the age of 80.
Cliff Arnold, a member and
former Elder from Guildford Baptist Church, led the
congregation in a time of open prayer
and praise for a life
lived honouring God. All those who knew Fred will
miss him. He was a man who believed that
when God had spoken, it was as good as done.
He was a teacher, a prayer minister, a pioneer and
a spiritual father to many. It was a privilege
to join together to thank the Lord for the life of
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Friends and family, met together to praise God
for the privilege of knowing and loving and being
blessed by Fred Elgar who died in August.
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A Tribute to
Fred Elgar
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Tributes from: Holland
and Switzerland
HOLLAND Here
is a message from Fritz Rosingh, the first
Dutch Leader. "In 1978, Fred crossed over
to Holland with a small team to take the first School
of Prayer Counselling there. The people who
attended were hand-picked by him for that school,
and they have remained the backbone of the work in
Holland. Fred coached them faithfully during
several years until they were able to take over the
torch." I shall always remember on our first
visit one of them chuckling and saying: "He’s
just like a Dutchman!"
SWITZERLAND Here
is another message from Christoph Stucklin,
the Swiss Leader. "Fred was the Founder Leader
of the Swiss Schools, and the Swiss appreciated having
this fatherly figure among them. To them he
epitomised steadfastness, and he was a model for
them. In Switzerland when people retire at
55, they look forward to taking it easy, but Fred
just went straight on and on, and he did not spare
himself. We never knew how old he was. His
lifestyle was a real testimony."
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A
Tribute to Fred Elgar given by Mary Clarke at the Thanksgiving Service 7 Oct
2001
I count it a real privilege
to give this tribute to Fred Elgar. One
of God’s truths that blesses me so much is that the
Lord looks on the heart. No matter what He
sees on the surface, He looks on the heart and Fred
was certainly a man after God’s own heart.
The Lord called him to be both a Pioneer
and an anointed teacher.
I have known Fred and Barbara
for about 35 years. My husband Charles (who
was also a Minister) was invited to share in the
Easter services at St. Barnabas in Crawley and we
both enjoyed meeting the whole family. One of the
children was only a baby. We have been friends
ever since and through thick and thin we have laughed
together, we have cried together and we have ministered
and prayed together.
My brief today is to tell
you a little about how Fred came to be involved in
Wholeness Through Christ. It all
began at a Fountain Trust Conference in those
glorious early days of the Charismatic movement when
the love of God was poured out upon us by the Person
of the Holy Spirit. We saw miracles of
healing, many lives were changed overnight and new
ministries began to spring up. We all had
a greater vision of who Jesus was, not only
to bring the Good News of how on the cross
He took upon Himself all our innate sin and reconciled
us to God, but also that He came to heal the
broken hearted, to set the captives free and to make
His people WHOLE.
At one of the Conferences
a lady called Anne White spoke to us. She
was the International Leader behind what was known
as Victorious Ministry Through Christ.
She was also the author of a book entitled
"Healing Adventure". Straightaway
Fred wanted to know all about it. She told
him, "Well, you have to be prayer counseled
yourself before you can do it." So,
along with one or two other Ministers, including
my husband, they met together. And very soon
after that Victorious Ministry Through Christ (U.K.)
was launched! Later the British were led to become
autonomous and it was called Wholeness Through
Christ.
So here we have it! Fred
was the one who spearheaded the ministry of Prayer
Counselling in this country. It was not long
before we were called to run Schools of Prayer Counselling
abroad. Also, from time to time,
it was special that Barbara was able to join him
for extended holiday visits.
I also bring you these messages
from Holland,
Switzerland,
Canada
and Malawi.
< See the
side columns >
I should also tell you that
the original goal of Victorious Ministry Through
Christ was to train leaders who in turn would
build up teams in their local churches. Today
in Wholeness Through Christ there has been somewhat
of a shift from that main aim. So now,
alongside it, we have Christian Prayer Ministries
whose emphasis is on training with the same basic
principles as well as encouraging and supporting
local ministry. As a pioneer and as a teacher,
Fred would have been very pleased about that.
So these are great tributes to a man after
God’s own heart. And those of us who
had the privilege of knowing Fred will miss him and
will always have a place for him in our hearts.
Mary Clarke
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Tributes from: Canada
and Malawi
CANADA Our next call was to Canada and
America to be with Alistair Petrie, the then
Rector of Brentwood Anglican Chapel on Vancouver
Island. This is what he said about Fred: "As
he got older he portrayed an extraordinary youthfulness.
He was like the bow of a ship, willing to venture
into areas that were not navigated before. He
was a stabilizer and a pioneer. You don’t often
get both in the same person. One of Fred’s frequent
sayings apart from "It’s very interesting"
was "God’s in control". Fred was
able to take the complexity of spiritual things and
make them quite simple so that everyone could understand
them. He would navigate and stabilize with
the Word of God. And he was so full of faith
that God would do it. He knew God as a God
of faithfulness."
MALAWI Another highlight in Fred’s ministry
abroad in the last 10 years was in Malawi. Kenneth
and Margaret Gubbins began the ministry over
there and Kenneth told me that Fred was very much
loved by the Malawians and highly respected by them
as a teacher.
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From North Wales
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North Wales
sprang to life with its first prayer ministry course
in March. It used the available facilities to
good effect, the Village Community Centre in which
the Mold Christian Fellowship meets, a Primary School
and Judith's home - a converted chapel - which was
the scene for some talks. All were brought into use
for the prayer ministry. "...
a marvellous weekend. God really worked in my life."
said one. Local hosts, arranged by Glenn
and Maureen Pennington from among the Mold Christian
Fellowship, shared companionable fellowship with
the visiting Team members from the West Midlands
and Preston. Worship led by Shirley and Margaret
from the local fellowship enabled an openness to
the messages from the Lord Jesus Christ. "... What a wonderful atmosphere
in which to hear God!" said another. The
Lord visited each and every prayer ministry, bringing
great release and joy to the members and comforting
satisfaction to the prayer ministers. "... I've been healed. I can hardly
believe it. It's wonderful!" said another,
and another: "I've had a
great time with God."
But the "icing on the cake" was provided
by Pastor Mike Fryer who wore three hats; worship
leader; behind the scenes organiser; and chef. Chef?
Yes, Chef! (After all the sheep need to be fed).Ed. Lunch
is often bring-your-own-sandwiches, tea is fish and
chips, pie and chips or anything and chips, but Mike
promised that the church fellowship would provide
lunch and evening meal. We had a delicious soup
for lunch, and a delectable spaghetti bolognese for
tea, complete with fruit, cheese board , cake, iced
lemon water. No ordinary surroundings but by
candle light and waiters with bow ties and white
gloves, and soft music!. Never in my experience has
a CPM meeting been shown such an expression of love
through servanthood! "...
I'm coming back to this church for the food alone."
said someone, probably others did too. So
the Chef and volunteer 'staff' were given grateful
thanks by prayer ministers and members, and we returned
home thrilled instead of being worn out. "... Can we have waiter service
at every Christian Prayer Ministry?" We'll
have to wait and see. This first one will be hard
to best, but we have a God who can do "exceedingly
abundantly" beyond what we can measure, so we
are looking forward to next time. It was twelve this
time, next autumn or spring we may take twenty.
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